Transcendental Knowledge

BG 4.39

çraddhäväl labhate jïänaà

tat-paraù saàyatendriyaù

jïänaà labdhvä paräà çäntim

acireëädhigacchati

 

TRANSLATION

A faithful man who is dedicated to transcendental knowledge and who subdues his senses is eligible to achieve such knowledge, and having achieved it he quickly attains the supreme spiritual peace.

By HG Chaitanya Charan pr

1. chap 3 karma yoga , chap4 ,transcendental knowledge and chap5 is karma yoga in KC.
2. generally when scriptures are being taught it is like lawyer is trying to argue ,law code has a purpose of justice ,  but based on the expertise of lawyer one can defeat the purpose of law or fulfill the purpose of the law,
3. in Vedic system , there are six divisions , they are progressive stages , like sankhya  philosophy ,analyzing matter , after that vaisesika philosophy , then yoga ,reality beyond matter , then karma mimansa –even one know he is not body but interested in sense gratification then nyaya based on Vedanta , 
4. if one takes only one section of it then one gets incomplete knowledge
5. like if one takes a section from law
6. theory has to stand on its own ground not on alternative , but in case of dowry , if woman files a case that then family member is put into jail ,
7. in scriptures there are sections where they tell about that Lord has impersonality , but there is a context , that is we are attracted to these forms , so Lord does not have form like this but after some sections there is tell Lord has form ,
8. different philosophers has their own case to argue ,so they may defeat the purpose of the scriptures
9. in every sentence of law code the purpose of law code is not mentioned
10.  in modern   society we have knowledge is for control ,
11. actual purpose of knowledge is to develop virtue , to give up our free will and surrender to Krishna
12. purpose of knowledge in goodness , passion(control ) , ignorance (destruction )
13. knowledge in passion ,and ignorance does not enlightens the person ,it expands the ignorance of person
14. some time instead of people getting influenced by scriptures they impose their modes on scriptures ,
15. when one is studying the scriptures they have filter ,
16. SB is like gulabjamun from whichever side you read it is sweet ,
17. all the scriptures are not directly Krishna katha
18. even Hari Katha should not be heard from a-vaishnava
19. we project our consciousness on what we read ,
20. obstinacy of a conditioned soul can go beyond the persuasive power of the Lord
21. “we have to empower the holy name to purify our heart ,” by attentively chanting holy name , in “chanting of holyname “
22. unique presentation of Srila Prabhupada puts forward always the purpose of scriptures ,  Prabhupada is fulfilling the purpose of BG throughout the BG ,
23. if our desires are materialistic then scriptures will not influence us properly .

 

 

 

Relationship between faith and knowledge

Revision : how do you get knowledge – first faith ,then one should want that knowledge “tat parah” ,one should be attached to that knowledge , third is sense control

 

1. Krishna is talking about internalization of knowledge ,
2. Rupa Goswami says that to acquire KC only price is laullayam ,
   1. If some body coming from outside to India ,to find Krishna it is so difficult
3. if one is tat-parah then Krishna helps that person
4. one person asked to mahraj – how to know who is genuine , mah said that first ask the question that am I genuine
5. for modern people spirituality means stress relieving process
   1. by laughing one may feel little happy but that is not spirituality ,
   2. for people ,spirituality ,is like shock absorber ,
   3. KC is also shock absorber , but that is not the essence of it
6. we need to ask fundamental questions about what is life .
7. Stephen knap “ Christianity begins with believe and ends with believe “ but KC begins with athato brahma jinsas .
   1. We put some believe that there of higher reality , inquiry is basis ,
   2. Those people who don’t have this jinsas then sadhu sanga awakens this jinsas.
   3. Without brahma jinasa and Sadhu sanga then one does not have firm faith
8. as devotees we also came with some faith ,
9. in KC growth means growth of faith
10. if we have faith that spiritual world is there , and we have faith in chanting then we will not be attracted by material enjoyment
11. FAITH  
12. some time our intelligence starts doubting , but we should not stop at doubting , we go ahead ,
13. F-  futility :

a.       Devs some time feel so many problems are there ,Jai Dvaita mah told “ spiritual life is difficult but material life is impossible”

b.      If we don’t control the senses then constant toruture

c.       Even if we come to little bit of mode of goodness we come to know how the people in passion are suffering

d.      One SP told “there is no happiness in material world “ in mode of goodness we stop to chase after happiness , then relive gives us happiness .,

e.       Real happiness is when soul contact with supersoul

14.                   A --- Amazing 

a.       Amazing design we see in this world ,

b.      Theist will say God has given us so many things , but atheist will say that Go has not given so many things ,

c.       We can see that there is amazing design , but at same time there is arrangement for suffering

                                                               i.      Example in jail there is wall constructed but there is suffering

d.      If we think that this world is made for our enjoyment then we suffer ,

e.       Any analogy only points towards truth

                                                               i.      Jail analogy is not completely conveys like mercy of God

f.        Design of this world has to be seen as jail and hospital

g.       Imperfection is also part of this design

15.                   I – Integrity

a.       People get faith seeing leader’s integrity

b.      People lost the faith in Christianity because the priest were involve in wrong practices

c.       But when people saw Prabhupada who lived according to what he talked

d.      When people see lack of integrity then loose faith

16.                       T – Transformation

a.       We can see the transformation by practice of KC

b.      Apara dharma – success of it that religion leads to material advancement , but this does not works in kaliyuga , because of not following the rituals properly . this is karmkand religion ,

c.       When you do the religion God will awards you

d.      Para dharma – bhaktir paresanubhav virtakit anaytra ca

                                                               i.      Real dharma gives us experience of God and which helps to give the material enjoyment

e.       A devotee should not see the material advancement as success in spiritual life ,

f.        Bagavatam is so completely different from other’s ideas , that when one surrenders to God then he get much deeper in life, and God takes away everything

g.       Transformation is like growing of tree , initially it may be visible , but then growth is inner strength , we are able to resist the temptation .,

h.       What is differene between  for temptation

                                                               i.      Materialist – they welcome

                                                             ii.      Pure devotee-  get lost ,I don’t have to do anything

                                                            iii.      Casual devotee – I will do it when no body is seeing , I will do it later .

                                                         iv.      Serious devotee – he is busy so much in devotional service that he has no time for temptations , and he never gets time for them.

17.                     H-  Happiness

a.       People eat to satisfy themselves ,

b.      So if we have advance in KC ,we will know ourselves

c.     Eat your dharna and wear your artha .—HG shyamanada pr

d.      Get nourished from your dharma , and dress properly ,

e.       Practice of spiritual life is meant for our nourishment then we can nourish others

f.        One somebody asked Prabhupada .,”do you have doubts sometime “ then Prabhupada told “I don’t have any doubts otherwise how can I preach”

g.       In Christianity  there are not proper answers why people suffering , like a new born child “  , why God makes people suffer differently

h.       There are two types of doubts – heart doubt – is really devotees can guide me to spiritual world , the doubts which are related to core philosophy of KC , when we apply ourselves to KC then these doubts goes away . then there is brain doubt – like how this Jambudwip , how billions people were living Dwaraka ,

i.         We should focus on core principles ,   then people ‘s faith increased then experience comes

j.        By the application of KC goes away

18. material desire comes from doubts .,
    1. if we have faith then we will control our senses
19. KC is like drinking sweet rice , but our doubt are like stones in sweet rice ,
    1. Solution is remove those stones ,don’t throw the sweet rice
    2. So solution is application  of KC

20. more we purifies ourselves then we can become happy
21. are you happy --- I am happy that I am on the path of happiness
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