BG chapt 15
BG Chap 15,,, 6- 11 tells about the spiritual world and if you don’t become attracted to this then there Is transmigration of soul .
BG-15.6
That supreme abode of Mine is not illumined by the sun or moon, nor by fire or electricity. Those who reach it never return to this material world.
1. where every one wants to push others ahead that is spiritual world ,
2. that’s why important to hear about the qualities of
3. one should get captivated by spiritual world
4. if one does not get attracted then there is
a. BG15.7
mamaiväàço jéva-loke
jéva-bhütaù sanätanaù
manaù-ñañöhänéndriyäëi
prakåti-sthäni karñati
5. like son of tata is fighting for cigeratte ,
6.with mind and six senses one is struggling hard , that’s what one gets in material world
7. people think that suffering adds spice to life, this philosophy only works on paper , but it does not work practically , no body wants to suffer
8. but struggle does not remains only in this life. But in BG15.8
a. The living entity in the material world carries his different conceptions of life from one body to another as the air carries aromas. Thus he takes one kind of body and again quits it to take another.
9. whatever way one practices one’s life he gets next body .
10. body may be dead and gone , but desires are like aromas which get carried away from one life to another life .
11. from purport
a. Here the living entity is described as éçvara, the controller of his own body. If he likes, he can change his body to a higher grade, and if he likes he can move to a lower class. Minute independence is there. The change his body undergoes depends upon him. At the time of death, the consciousness he has created will carry him on to the next type of body. If he has made his consciousness like that of a cat or dog, he is sure to change to a cat's or dog's body. And if he has fixed his consciousness on godly qualities, he will change into the form of a demigod. And if he is in Kåñëa consciousness, he will be transferred to Kåñëaloka in the spiritual world and will associate with Kåñëa.
12. prabhupada is using many times “he” , means it is our responsibility that because of us we get this transmigration ,
13. whatever situation we are it is because of our own desire and activities in previour lives ,
14. some one says I have so many commitment for my family ,I don’t have time for Krishna , no use of for lamenting , go ahead , it is because of our own desire , now you have got the opportunity got to serve ,let us serve Krishna will be then happy
15. we can not say that situations have taken over ,but our inspiration always should be just being in material life , it will not solve the problem ,
16. like or don’t like we have to do our duty ,
17. whatever situation we may be in we have to see that we can serve
18. Q&A , it is very important to enrich ourselves with spiritual knowledge , then we will not come to know how much is needed for me , how much I need in terms of money and possessions , king Ambarish were using everything in Krishna’s service .on the basis of detachment one makes decision , we have to develop spiritual maturity , some time people renounce the whole world , they are looking towards sky but not ready to serve Krishna , some one does not have anything still he is not serving Krishna , so service attitude has to be cultivated .life of Sadhu is living for others , service attitude comes by practice of Krishna consciousness ,by service then attitude comes , material world is not comfortable place we have to keep on pushing , material world is dukhalayam , but serving Krishna we will get happiness , it gives inner fulfillment ,peace means no anxiety , spiritual life means anixiety for Krishna , love means anxiety , a person in family life has so many things , but in brahmcharya life one has only body but he may think only about body , so in any situation one has to become detached and focus on Lord ,
19. we have to take pinch for
20. BG15.9
a. The living entity in the material world carries his different conceptions of life from one body to another as the air carries aromas. Thus he takes one kind of body and again quits it to take another.
21. whatever trouble we are in , now we need to not increase this trouble
22. BVT says now I have become weak , which is creating obstacle in my dev life , it is caused by me only .
23. mind tricks us , and we are not able to serve , why I am limited by conditioning , because of past life we are not able to serve Krishna ,but if I don’t serve Krishna , then in future it is going to become more difficult ,
24. a devotee feels that now I have more opp to show that I am more wanting Your mercy , a devotee himself feels ourselves low and
15 September 2009 class
- BG15.11
- The endeavoring transcendentalists who are situated in self-realization can see all this clearly. But those whose minds are not developed and who are not situated in self-realization cannot see what is taking place, though they may try to.
- those whose senses are beyond control then even with pushing ,with all efforts he can not understand spiritual subject matters
- if some body is not determined to give up sense gratification then
- one who is endeavoring for the path of self realization only can see the troubles in world . ,can see the traps of maya
- a devotee always considers this world as foreign world , like going to
- we have to be always ALERT from maya
- ex. BSS , his lady disciple wanted to talk to alone but BSS told ,no but in presence of his another disciple only
- because they are always conscious of maya and alert ,that’s why they are protected
- because they are praying to
- even for grahsthas or bhramcharis ,association of women is contaminating , so one should avoid their association
- man to counsel women or women to counsel man is very dangerous
- sex impulse is very dangerous ,
- different different trap is there
- Q&A—within the vaishavan society opposite sex don’t get to mix much , but when we are working outside in company we get to intimate with woman ,here life is so pure but in outside company we try to remain guarded but dealings are more intimate ,so in that case it is not more dangerous to have intimate friendship rather than with devotees , outside we get emotional bonding ,
Ans : then both serve together for Krishna then consciousness is focused on Krishna , we become close with those devotees with whom we serve together , when focus is on
- there are so many distractions ,because of other people’s material ambitions , bill boards ,so with more vigor I need to practice KC to remain KC,
- tolerate the distractions and go ahead
- this world is not for gentleman –Prabhupada
- when we get disgusted with material world ,then we feel fortunate oursleve by getting KC, and we see other people that they are embracing misery then we get compassion for them
- it is great misery that whatever broken piece of misery I was thinking nice and embracing it , what a misery
- follow the instructions of
- being in this material world is very dangerous ,
- Q&A ,--why we are down sometime and sometime happy –ANS___ it is because of enjoying mentality, deeply rooted , when more enthusiastically we want to serve Krishna then we see ourselves helpless then we can cry for Krishna , so much devotees have done for us but I am not able to do anything , spirit I strong but flesh is weak ,even in chanting
- but we should not give it up then we will not perceive the difficulty in KC. Then we can not see it wrong .
- people don’t feel bad when we
- when we are helpless then we need to take shelter of scriptures , and apply but we should not become hopeless , we may be helpless ., so we need to have missionary spirit and preach , when we starts to preach others , again again get up and fight , then we see how Krishna will help.
- even if I don’t like it but I should do it , let it be ritual then slowly it will become spiritual , we need to push ourselves
